Post by firefly on Jan 17, 2012 17:01:14 GMT -5
Back in 2007, and 2008, it occurred to me that GWB had surely made a terrible mess of things, and I expressed to my companion and my son that his mess was so big and would take so long to overcome, if ever, that I wondered if the Republicans might not want to avoid winning the Presidency for several years. I thought they might just be delighted to have the Democrats take over the helm in 2008 because there was going to be no way to make an easy or quick fix.
When they ended up with John McCain, it gave some support for my theory. When they added Sara Palin, I felt it gave more support to my theory.
There was absolutely no way that team was going to take the top spot.
Then we had Obama who came on stage like a shooting star. He was barely elected to the Senate when there was talk of his running for the Presidency. It was almost like he was one of those mysteriously trending things such as the Ipads, or the Smart Phones. There was, to me, an uncommonly rapid rise to name recognition and suddenly this guy named Obama was all over the news channels. Running against a Clinton, holding his own, wonderful speaker, and good old Biden? Well, how could he lose?
I was cynical enough be believe that he was a plant by the GOP for, not one, but two reasons. First of all, most of us on the left expected Hillary Clinton to take the prize, except for me, and other cynics anonymous. This cynic thought that the GOP would rather literally blow up our entire country rather than have to witness Bill Clinton striding purposefully into the White House again, as "First Gentleman."
But the old, white men's club could accomplish a lot if they assisted (or at least didn't resist too strenuously) a female, , take the Presidency when the country was in shambles thanks to the corruption and criminality of the Bush terms in office. If either a female or a black male were to be elected, inheriting an almost impossible to stabilize government, and the Republicans/Conservatives could gain enough power to obstruct and undermine every aspect of legislation that could improve the situation, then there are some lovely negative options that might befall the Demicratic Party.
Whomever was going to the White House in 2008 was going to be facing the worst case scenario (other than the rapture and Armageddon) for the USA, and almost surely fall short of finding short term solutions. And if that failure could happen to be a female, or a black male. then it would be used as a standard for the future as a valid example of why neither a female or a black person should ever again be elected to that level of leadership, and it would give the Democrats a handicap on being perceived as those so anxious to appear tolerant that they would turn the nation over to incompetents---which, frequent comments by some right wingers seem to think applies to both women and black persons. Thus strengthening the positions of those of the conservative nature's political positions in the future. Nobody enjoys pointing out their opponents failures more than the right wingers. (That's just my opinion, and that opinion is, of course, biased. You have been notified. Don't blame me.)
Now, with that consideration, may I suggest you look at the insanity that is appearing across the nation as the GOP candidates are spending much time snarling at each others, making mountains out of molehills, undermining each other to the point of extinction, and ask yourself: Why is the news media wasting so much time on these GOP primaries. It appears to me that, once again, we are being conned by the neocons, and maybe ourselves, into thinking that Obama might not be re-elected.
Does it appear to anyone else to be very convenient and comfortable to the right wingers to remain as they are, an obstructive and undermining force, demanding results that would be impossible for anyone to obtain by legal or ethical means from an Administration they can control quite simply by refusing to permit the President to even fill the vacancies for department heads, judgeships, military and foreign service officers by simply refusing to accept his leadership.
All of these years while we, the people, have been accepting the concept of "They are the ones we elected, they must know best, and, besides, it's their job, isn't it?" the right wing has been consolidating into block voters, often the single issue voters. While the liberals have some block voters, there aren't nearly as many, because the liberals do not use the same gang, club, congregational, or economic clubs to determine those who are acceptable and those who aren't.
On the right side, one issue voters can be obvious: The gun nuts, the anti-abortion nuts, the homophobic nuts, the military nuts, the corporate nuts, the religion in school and the military, and the government nuts, the anti-poor nuts, the racists, the politically supported hit men nuts, the propaganda nuts, the proselytizing nuts, the God nuts, the gold standard nuts, the outsourcing job nuts, the anti-climate change nuts, the anti-environmental protection nuts, the anti FDA nuts, the anti Public Radio nuts, the anti-regulation. etc. etc.
I know there's a bunch of left wing nuts, but I'm going to play like a conservative and let it up to whoever wants to name them the right and privilege to do so.
Have fun.
Can you imagine what would be the State of the Union if McCain and Palin had been elected. Good grief, we would be putting up wire fences and armed guards to keep USians INSIDE!
No Republican is ever going to have to take the heat or pay the penalty for the State of this Union that has been foisted off on a bunch of seeming incompetents who are more afraid of the Republicans and a bunch of equally nuts religious people who, I think, would have been happy just killing each other. IF we hadn't decided to go over there and offer them easier cannon fodder.
I really don't give a damn about Republican "debates," or their sex lives, or their monetary worth, or even their character. I am really sick of turning on the news and hearing the same little pimples on the behinds of some Republican candidate being discussed as though it were life and death matters.
What matters? What's going on with the nuclear leaks in Fukiama (sp)? What kind of sanctions have we put on Iran? Are those sanctions severe enough that they constitute war crimes, or a provacation that might lead to nuclear attacks (including the "bunkerbuster bombs", which I recently heard are tactical nukes?
?)? Where is Bradley Manning, and why has he not been charged, released, or given representation? What about Julian Assaunge? Why is there silent acceptance of the assassination of an American born citizen who was an Imam in Yemen? Does it not present a new option for any American, anywhere being susceptible to assassination because they have a kind word to say about, or ten dollars to donate to, a group that is being starved due to our "sanctions?" What's happening to our infrastructure? Is anyone doing anything to keep the highways safe? How about our borders. If we can't stop the USian gun runners from arming the drug cartels in Mexico, or the drug cartels in Mexico from hiking up to our soil, what do we plan to do, if anything, to "protect" the citizens of the US? Are we playing into the hands of the NRA. Are grannies, like me, supposed to take their SS income and spend it on guns?? Is this going to become a do-it-yoursefl project? What about all the military weaponry being showered upon local, civilian law enforcement? Where is that coming from? Who voted for that? Who proposed a bill where the Military could start spending taxpayer money to arm the civilian law enforcement?
Do the abuses of civilian law enforcement go on with "not guilty" verdicts or judicial orders until a local police office can do any damned thing to a citizen he/she feels like and there is no redress without absolute retaliation upon the complainant? What about our military wounded? Jobs? Medical care? The mentally ill with flashbacks? The horrors to which the youth serving in the military are exposed, and/or instructed to commit? We send over our finest. What is going to come back? What will be changed, broken, amputated, distorted? What kinds of fears, loathings, and hatreds will come back with them? How many of them are in combat areas at present? What the hell is this illusion that we have "brought the last troop home?" What about the biggest US embassy in the world and the 40,000 people who are supposed to be inhabiting it? Are they there? Why?
Where is all the information about those subjects. You can dig, and click, and search all you want and you will find hundreds of thousands, millions, even, bits of information, with no basis for confirmation of anything. You find your website and take your pick. But you are not informed.
Where are the people going who have lost their homes and their jobs? Where are the sick people going to go when they can't work because the insurance companies won't let them be hired because of the risk?
Ya know, there really are other, more important things, for the MSMo be concerned about other than Romney's bank account numbers and Newt Gingrichs wives. I don't give a damn about Romney's dog having the loose shits on his car's roof top. I think it would be more fun if it was on Romney, but, we can't have everything. I don't give a damn who endorses whom in this primary.
I give a damn about what is happening to "we the people." Not just "we the people" of the US, but "we the people" who are being helped and harmed by the US. I wanna know what the CIA is doing, killing people in my name, paid for by my tax money. I wanna know where there's a bunch of wounded natives who are being helped by US medics, or Cuban medics, or African medics. I wanna know why we spend money on weapons and create sanctions that cause death and harm to old people, women and children and wounded citizens who are fighting to free their countries. I wanna know why it's okay for us to have been an ally of Iraq's while it gassed the Kurds and the Iranians. I wanna know why it's okay for us to "take out" a ruler and replace him/her with another one who will work with our corrupt requirements. I wanna know why there are those in other lands to whom our government refers as Democracies, when they are dictatorships, theocracies, plutocracies, and plan outright tyranies. Some of them forced, through fear of our threats to comply with our financial interests and requirements or risk more disruption and destruction than they can handle.
Who are the terrorists? Who is terrorized?
ff
When they ended up with John McCain, it gave some support for my theory. When they added Sara Palin, I felt it gave more support to my theory.
There was absolutely no way that team was going to take the top spot.
Then we had Obama who came on stage like a shooting star. He was barely elected to the Senate when there was talk of his running for the Presidency. It was almost like he was one of those mysteriously trending things such as the Ipads, or the Smart Phones. There was, to me, an uncommonly rapid rise to name recognition and suddenly this guy named Obama was all over the news channels. Running against a Clinton, holding his own, wonderful speaker, and good old Biden? Well, how could he lose?
I was cynical enough be believe that he was a plant by the GOP for, not one, but two reasons. First of all, most of us on the left expected Hillary Clinton to take the prize, except for me, and other cynics anonymous. This cynic thought that the GOP would rather literally blow up our entire country rather than have to witness Bill Clinton striding purposefully into the White House again, as "First Gentleman."
But the old, white men's club could accomplish a lot if they assisted (or at least didn't resist too strenuously) a female, , take the Presidency when the country was in shambles thanks to the corruption and criminality of the Bush terms in office. If either a female or a black male were to be elected, inheriting an almost impossible to stabilize government, and the Republicans/Conservatives could gain enough power to obstruct and undermine every aspect of legislation that could improve the situation, then there are some lovely negative options that might befall the Demicratic Party.
Whomever was going to the White House in 2008 was going to be facing the worst case scenario (other than the rapture and Armageddon) for the USA, and almost surely fall short of finding short term solutions. And if that failure could happen to be a female, or a black male. then it would be used as a standard for the future as a valid example of why neither a female or a black person should ever again be elected to that level of leadership, and it would give the Democrats a handicap on being perceived as those so anxious to appear tolerant that they would turn the nation over to incompetents---which, frequent comments by some right wingers seem to think applies to both women and black persons. Thus strengthening the positions of those of the conservative nature's political positions in the future. Nobody enjoys pointing out their opponents failures more than the right wingers. (That's just my opinion, and that opinion is, of course, biased. You have been notified. Don't blame me.)
Now, with that consideration, may I suggest you look at the insanity that is appearing across the nation as the GOP candidates are spending much time snarling at each others, making mountains out of molehills, undermining each other to the point of extinction, and ask yourself: Why is the news media wasting so much time on these GOP primaries. It appears to me that, once again, we are being conned by the neocons, and maybe ourselves, into thinking that Obama might not be re-elected.
Does it appear to anyone else to be very convenient and comfortable to the right wingers to remain as they are, an obstructive and undermining force, demanding results that would be impossible for anyone to obtain by legal or ethical means from an Administration they can control quite simply by refusing to permit the President to even fill the vacancies for department heads, judgeships, military and foreign service officers by simply refusing to accept his leadership.
All of these years while we, the people, have been accepting the concept of "They are the ones we elected, they must know best, and, besides, it's their job, isn't it?" the right wing has been consolidating into block voters, often the single issue voters. While the liberals have some block voters, there aren't nearly as many, because the liberals do not use the same gang, club, congregational, or economic clubs to determine those who are acceptable and those who aren't.
On the right side, one issue voters can be obvious: The gun nuts, the anti-abortion nuts, the homophobic nuts, the military nuts, the corporate nuts, the religion in school and the military, and the government nuts, the anti-poor nuts, the racists, the politically supported hit men nuts, the propaganda nuts, the proselytizing nuts, the God nuts, the gold standard nuts, the outsourcing job nuts, the anti-climate change nuts, the anti-environmental protection nuts, the anti FDA nuts, the anti Public Radio nuts, the anti-regulation. etc. etc.
I know there's a bunch of left wing nuts, but I'm going to play like a conservative and let it up to whoever wants to name them the right and privilege to do so.
Have fun.
Can you imagine what would be the State of the Union if McCain and Palin had been elected. Good grief, we would be putting up wire fences and armed guards to keep USians INSIDE!
No Republican is ever going to have to take the heat or pay the penalty for the State of this Union that has been foisted off on a bunch of seeming incompetents who are more afraid of the Republicans and a bunch of equally nuts religious people who, I think, would have been happy just killing each other. IF we hadn't decided to go over there and offer them easier cannon fodder.
I really don't give a damn about Republican "debates," or their sex lives, or their monetary worth, or even their character. I am really sick of turning on the news and hearing the same little pimples on the behinds of some Republican candidate being discussed as though it were life and death matters.
What matters? What's going on with the nuclear leaks in Fukiama (sp)? What kind of sanctions have we put on Iran? Are those sanctions severe enough that they constitute war crimes, or a provacation that might lead to nuclear attacks (including the "bunkerbuster bombs", which I recently heard are tactical nukes?
?)? Where is Bradley Manning, and why has he not been charged, released, or given representation? What about Julian Assaunge? Why is there silent acceptance of the assassination of an American born citizen who was an Imam in Yemen? Does it not present a new option for any American, anywhere being susceptible to assassination because they have a kind word to say about, or ten dollars to donate to, a group that is being starved due to our "sanctions?" What's happening to our infrastructure? Is anyone doing anything to keep the highways safe? How about our borders. If we can't stop the USian gun runners from arming the drug cartels in Mexico, or the drug cartels in Mexico from hiking up to our soil, what do we plan to do, if anything, to "protect" the citizens of the US? Are we playing into the hands of the NRA. Are grannies, like me, supposed to take their SS income and spend it on guns?? Is this going to become a do-it-yoursefl project? What about all the military weaponry being showered upon local, civilian law enforcement? Where is that coming from? Who voted for that? Who proposed a bill where the Military could start spending taxpayer money to arm the civilian law enforcement?Do the abuses of civilian law enforcement go on with "not guilty" verdicts or judicial orders until a local police office can do any damned thing to a citizen he/she feels like and there is no redress without absolute retaliation upon the complainant? What about our military wounded? Jobs? Medical care? The mentally ill with flashbacks? The horrors to which the youth serving in the military are exposed, and/or instructed to commit? We send over our finest. What is going to come back? What will be changed, broken, amputated, distorted? What kinds of fears, loathings, and hatreds will come back with them? How many of them are in combat areas at present? What the hell is this illusion that we have "brought the last troop home?" What about the biggest US embassy in the world and the 40,000 people who are supposed to be inhabiting it? Are they there? Why?
Where is all the information about those subjects. You can dig, and click, and search all you want and you will find hundreds of thousands, millions, even, bits of information, with no basis for confirmation of anything. You find your website and take your pick. But you are not informed.
Where are the people going who have lost their homes and their jobs? Where are the sick people going to go when they can't work because the insurance companies won't let them be hired because of the risk?
Ya know, there really are other, more important things, for the MSMo be concerned about other than Romney's bank account numbers and Newt Gingrichs wives. I don't give a damn about Romney's dog having the loose shits on his car's roof top. I think it would be more fun if it was on Romney, but, we can't have everything. I don't give a damn who endorses whom in this primary.
I give a damn about what is happening to "we the people." Not just "we the people" of the US, but "we the people" who are being helped and harmed by the US. I wanna know what the CIA is doing, killing people in my name, paid for by my tax money. I wanna know where there's a bunch of wounded natives who are being helped by US medics, or Cuban medics, or African medics. I wanna know why we spend money on weapons and create sanctions that cause death and harm to old people, women and children and wounded citizens who are fighting to free their countries. I wanna know why it's okay for us to have been an ally of Iraq's while it gassed the Kurds and the Iranians. I wanna know why it's okay for us to "take out" a ruler and replace him/her with another one who will work with our corrupt requirements. I wanna know why there are those in other lands to whom our government refers as Democracies, when they are dictatorships, theocracies, plutocracies, and plan outright tyranies. Some of them forced, through fear of our threats to comply with our financial interests and requirements or risk more disruption and destruction than they can handle.
Who are the terrorists? Who is terrorized?
ff
